Re: [Full-disclosure] "responsible disclosure" explanation (anexample of the fallacy of idealistic thought)

["Jason Coombs" <jasonc@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Florian Weimer wrote:
> The implicit message that other
> disclosure processes were
> irresponsible was invaluable.

Invaluable; adjective

'Valuable beyond estimation. Priceless.'

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=invaluable

You've got that right. It has proved invaluable to marketing efforts, lobbyist 
campaigns to get new legislation enacted, and disinformation spread by 
self-interested bad people.

(I know you're not one of them)

Sincerely,

Jason Coombs
jasonc@xxxxxxxxxxx

“A Trojan is malicious code that gives an attacker future unauthorized access 
to a computer or its data. Nobody with common sense refers to spyware as 
Trojans.”

-----Original Message-----
From: Florian Weimer <fw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 19:15:27 
To:Matthew Murphy <mattmurphy@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc:full-disclosure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] "responsible disclosure" explanation (an
        example of the fallacy of idealistic thought)

* Matthew Murphy:

> Let me just define "responsible disclosure" first of all, so as to 
> dissociate myself from the lunatic lawyers of certain corporations 
> (Cisco, HP, ISS, et al) who define "responsible disclosure" as 
> "non-disclosure".  The generally accepted definition of responsible 
> disclosure is simply allowing vendors advance notification to fix 
> vulnerabilities in their products before information describing such 
> vulnerabilities is released.

Back in 2001, this was called "full disclosure", see:

  <http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/policy.html>

(The document is probably even older, use archive.org to find out.)

In retrospect, "responsible disclosure" was always more a marketing
term than anything else (just like "blended threat").  The implicit
message that other disclosure processes were irresponsible was
invaluable.
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