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[Full-disclosure] Re: Call for new mailing lists @ SecurityFocus (X-POST)

That's why I wrote 'before 2003'... reading is difficult, arrogance is easy I see in your response, the arrogance of a Symantec I would like to say, but you still interest me ;-)
I see differences, it's called delayed disclosure and it's called symantec (who has more securityproblems with it's own products than any other security software supplier(?) :-) and it's called $ to pay for information which used to be free before securityfocus 'went commercial'
http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2002-July/000143.html
remember? that's the moment you went rich and blind :-)
if you don't see it, all that yellow stuff is blinding you or the money is blinding you
did the people who contributed to securityfocus got paid when you received all those US$ ?
ok that's old cows, let's leave that because we're grownups... at least we say we are
do you remember why this full-disclosure list was started in the first place?
I do... undelayed, unmoderated, uncensored, disclosure, full if you want, room for discussions etc
Why would we need another @securityfocus list if we already have this full disclosure list... that's whay I wrote between the lines ;-)
Securityfocus.com was great... until it was bought by Symantec... I saw you come, be and die
My opinion, if you don't like it... well... that's life

Alfred Huger wrote:



Frank,

It was acquired in 2002 not 2003. If you can actually point to anything differant other than aesthetics I'd be happy to talk about it and even work to change it if it's got merit. I've been here since the begining - given I started it - and I really see little or any differance pre vrs. post Symantec.

-al




On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Frank de Wit wrote:

todo?
quit symantec
restart the real securityfocus as it was before 2003
start fulldisclosure...

Alfred Huger wrote:


All,

As most of you know, some of the strongest value the SecurityFocus
community has to offer is that of our mailing lists. These lists
contribute a vast amount of information and dialogue to the community at
large but they are generally held within a finite amount of lists, which
changes little (in terms of # of lists) over time. Given this is the case
we, every few years, make a call for new mailing lists from the community.

I would like to invite you to send me your thoughts on which new mailing lists we should start here. Based off the feedback we receive I believe we will launch a number of new lists in the late September timeframe. I also urge you to consider becoming a moderator for the list(s) you suggest because as a community we are only viable if we all make an effort to participate..

Regards,
Alfred

Alfred Huger
Symantec Corp.
Sr. Director, Engineering
Response & Global Managed Security Services




Alfred Huger
Symantec Corp.

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